willheines17 asked: What do you think of the possibility that Red John could be Jane himself?
Not happening, Heller said in a recent interview is “definitively” not Jane. Even before that, I’ve never even considered the possibility!
Here’s my take on The Mentalist’s list of seven names, and who I think it could and couldn’t be.
Definitely not in my eyes;
Jane only met and shook hands with Kirkland this season while Lorelei was imprisoned. How could she have known of their brief encounter? I’m personally a fan of Kirkland using Homeland’s resources to track Red John, it would also explain why he asked Jason Lennon, the RJ associate, if he recognised him, as I believe Kirkland would be related to a victim in some way.
Partridge seems to be too young and too out of pocket to be Red John. I say this as Partridge seems younger than Ray Haffner, whom we know was 21 during ‘The Red Barn’ murder, which was in 1988. However, I do think that Partridge has worked with Red John at some point. Due to the obvious connection, I believe it was actually Partridge when “Red John” recites William Blake’s poem, ‘The Tyger’ to Jane. It would be important to note that Partridge fits with Rosalind Harker’s description of Red John.
From what I vaguely remember from the episode he appeared in, he seemed to be fairly clumsy, and weak minded when analysed by Jane. Obviously this could be an act, and this is the only character from my Definitely Not list that I’d happily be surprised at being Red John. I can’t wait to see more from this character.
I recall from the episode this character appearing in, that he was very intrigued as to what Jane actually did for the CBI, and was subsequently challenged to a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors, to which McAllister lost each time. I think he also asked if Jane was a psychic or if he had a supernatural ability. This makes me think if McAllister is Red John, this was him in his early days, and being inspired by meeting Jane in the flesh, he then evolves into this “psychic” being that was being referred to in the Season Five finale. McAllister had a creepy vibe to him during his episode when it came to Van Pelt walking alone, but I believe this can be overwritten by my view of Ray Haffner.
Bertram has never striked me as a suspect, and it’s for the sheer fact that he got too distracted from work with his poker habits. He could have easily taken Jane down after they solved the mystery in the Season Five finale, it makes no real sense for Bertram to be in the list, other than the fact he has quoted a William Blake poem. This is the only reason he makes me suspicious, and why he’s in my Could Be list.
I always had Stiles down for being Red John, but recently I’ve been unsure. Why would Stiles help Lorelei escape from prison, when he knew what Jane’s interest was with her? An answer could be that RJ is seeing the end of his days, much like Stiles, and would want the hunt for him to end sooner, rather than later. Another reason why I’m unsure is why would the overlord of a cult be at ‘The Red Barn’ to murder two of his workers? Stiles does seem to have a fascination with Jane, but I believe this would be due to him understanding he is regarded as a suspect. Stiles is my second candidate for being Red John, as I somehow think that Stiles knows Sean Barlow in some form, and managed to dig into Jane’s past. This would be an answer to how RJ knew who to murder next.
My bet’s on:
Since this character has more reasons for me than any other, I will put them in list format.
1. He matches Rosalind’s description. Superficial I know, but a reason nonetheless.
2. When Jane joins his team in ‘Little Red Book’, Haffner has a curiosity with him, if he is Red John, this is probably due to his first real interactions with Jane. This ultimately builds into a frustration, and gets the original team reinstated.
3. Visualize member during the occurrence at ‘Little Red Barn’, obviously all the final suspects have some sort of connection, but I think how Haffner left Lisbon wondering if he was Red John was a serious mistake on his behalf.
4. Haffner is starting his own private security company. From this I can grab some other theories as to how I believe he is Red John. The first would be, he clearly has the money to start up a company, and to pull off the Red John mysteries. The second reason is that in the Season Five finale, it appears that Lorelei is in some form of interrogation room, maybe irrelevent, who knows.. Lastly, would be regarding his interest with Lisbon joining his startup. Have you noticed how Red John’s female accomplices only have dark hair? Haffner offering Lisbon a hefty pay check only strengthens the argument, as Jane says, Red John only acts when the accomplice wants something. This is a test of loyalty on Lisbon about her relationship with Jane, and to get a vague understanding of her interests.
What do you think?
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